I do think Mike Rinder shouldve spoken up and recommended, Hey lets find another story where it is more apparent that the tech was a major factor in a suicide. But did L. Ronald Hubbard intend it that way? Certainly, the church needs to be more compassionate in general, especially with their existing public. Honestly Statpush, does that sound like an agenda for reformation to you? And its ridiculous to expect the church to reform along these lines. If the disability is pronounced to be curable within the skill of the physical practitioner and is in actual fact a disease or illness which surrenders to contemporary physical treatment, to require the person to be so treated before Scientology processing may be undertaken;. This was not a trap. I must confess that I didnt have any moral problem with that, back then. Perhaps no more than a 70-80% of the time, I did followed LRH, , Getting back on trackwhat could the church do to reform this aspect of their religion (if were to believe Mike and Leah)? How about the fact that she never refers to Tayler as her daughter!! The reg was flabbergasted with me but he finally said, Well if you just dont want to do it then I wont make you do it. If auditors were licensed, then they could not forbid people from getting the medical treatment they need without losing their license. It sounds a lot like the viewpoint of church Scientologists, dont you think? : So, to answer your question, Gtsix, about, .how does the Church feel about psychiatry and receiving psychiatric treatment?, my answers to that is :, But somehow I feel that you HAD already seen that part of my reply the first time I posted it, . I would rather err in trusting others than in thinking that they can not change. But no cult has the right to break the law. I knew the Tweed family. On Saturday, a memorial was held for her at Scientology's Hollywood Celebrity Centre as family and friends gathered to remember the attractive young woman who had been working on a career in music and acting (as Tayler DeBari). The guy is NUTS, I thought. I think that we all need a second chance at redemption, forgiveness, and the opportunity to right our wrongdoings. I agree, but perhaps she can learn the better ways. By assumptions, I meant what was presented on the episode 2 of The Aftermath season 2. I am glad Leah and Mike are finally getting the truth out there. I could not do anything like that. I MYSELF had been doing just that until recently, though I didnt do it that much. Bullshit. Thats just part of the anti-Scientology narrative conveniently created by the anti-Scientology camp to drive home their own personal agendas. Thank you Lauren for sitting down with Leah and Mike. We love you, Tayler. We werent supposed to accept those, but the ED (a GREAT individual indeed! He enjoyed throwing with Marshall High School Track and playing tuba in the band. Or you just like the anti Scientology narrative?. Thats why I was a squirrel who seldom followed LRH to the letter. And then over 2 years later, Tony Ortega brought in a licensed family therapist, Rachel Bernstein, to psychoanalyze the quotes from Cathy Tweeds which were made the day after her daughters funeral. She commented at length about Scientology, and her mental issues were exacerbated by her auditing cycles. Now that Ive checked, my memory was incorrect. This whole video reeks like a ad misericordiam, the logical fallacy that because someone should be pitied, theyre innocent. Well, try to go to Flag (the principal Scientology organization) for services and tell them that you are sick, and see what happens. It is the same with for example, priests who are also trained clinical psychologists, and who besides using the scriptures as a priest to spiritually orient the individuals he/she is trying to help, he also uses the tools of his trade as a trained clinical psychologist (or other type of psychotherapist) to help his parishioner. But you are the police officer taking her complaint. I think they do just fine but I do not expect them to get everything right. Two years ago, we told you about Tayler Tweed, a 27-year-old Scientologist who had been working on a career in music and acting under the name Tayler DeBari before she killed herself at the home of some friends in Fullerton, California on January 10, 2014. And like me, there were others who had to do the same. Most debris that were blocking the streets have already been taken care of, and the biggest damage is from 50-75% of the island without electrical power, and cell phones and internet signals either inactive or very poor. Did you read those letters and watched those videos as well so as to have a more balanced viewpoint on the scenario? What the fuck do you call what you are doing? It was before TRs and Objectives because after all that course is considered to be an auditing or processing cycle. Absolutely. Glasscock's classic 1935 book . Unless your experience results in greater tolerance and compassion and wisdom for suicide survivors what good is it? The No.1 site across the UK for funeral notices, where you can search over 5,004,817 notices. I am glad Leah and Mike are finally getting the truth out there. Come on, how obvious does it have to get? Yes that jogs my memory. It was me the one who usually wrote the Program for such a handling, and very detailed notes of progress were kept. I cant fault you on your logic., Clearly Leah and Mike have some type of agenda, and as you point out, it is not reformation., Thinking about this a bit more, the only set policy regarding suicide that Im aware of, is the routing-in metered interviews to the HGC (and possibly on sec checks), designed to filter-out undesirables. Like SO MANY medical doctors, psychologists and psychiatrists BELIEVE today, there is such a thing called Psychosomatic Illnesses, which means illnesses brought about by the different kinds of mental stresses that an individual might be undergoing in his/her life. But its a big stretch and a falsehood to broaden that to say the church doesnt treat the mentally ill. There are references for doing so going back to the first books, such as in Science of Survival with its Chart of Human Evaluation which specifies how to audit neurosis and psychosis. Thanks Marildi; thats a VERY interesting viewpoint indeed! I my humble opinion, reform IS possible, and even using specific LRHs policies themselves. But now after going public about leaving the church, writing a book about it, and doing The Aftermath, suddenly she is all over the Media, being mentioned at almost every newspaper and magazine on the planet. My own experience had mostly been as a Mission staff that then became a small org. Well, do all mothers make some mistakes? Mary, no offense, but you are either naively buying into what Mike Rinder and Leah Remini are saying in The Aftermath because you dont know much about Scientologys policies as you were never a Scientologist yourself, or you were involved with Scientology but were not very familiar with its policies. As you say, it was the decision to air that segment using only Tony Ortegas information with no attempt to update it with anything new, or even fair, that I believe is the height of cruel emotional manipulation by Mike Rinder, Leah Remini, and the rest of the shows producers. How many times was I PERSONALLY told about this by the people who had this experience? (Mick) Peacefully at rest on 30th September 2022 at the Royal Stoke. New Chandigarh Satta King Result Chart 13 January 2023 Today New Chandigarh Record Chart 2023, New Agra Satta King Result Chart 13 January 2023 Today New Agra Record Chart 2023, Dhan Ratan Satta King Result Chart 13 January 2023 Today Dhan Ratan Record Chart 2023, Madhur Shree Satta King Result Chart 13 January 2023 Today Madhur Shree Satta Record Chart 2023, Delhi State Satta Result Chart 13 January 2023 Today Delhi State Satta Record Chart 2023. The mother has no room to talk when she let her belief structure blind her to real issues. Are they, really? Its not right to leave out information just so you can demonize someone. But that doesnt alter the fact that she wasnt any longer on the public eye not that she necessarily needed any money. Yet he criticises the ones who do. Most people, unless there was some kind of religious or ideological vengeance they wanted to exact, would never do such a thing to someone like that. For Type III, I would expect the person to get a Qual program, which may include The Introspection Rundown. No, he DIDNT; read the policies on it. (Collins) Passed away on the 14/01/2023 and will be sadly missed by her whole. Now, the anti-Scientology movement will try to get us to believe that most Scientologists doesnt believe in medical doctors, and that they never seek proper medical treatment. And the church would be able to survive it. Scn, as an activity, is very much self-centered; and VERY focused on the able (e.g. Case in point, the DeCrescenzo lawsuit brought forced abortions to the forefront, the reaction from the church no more abortions (so Im told). But, for now, there were not many telecasts of Tyler Tweeds death cause on the news or any orbitary statements. My bad, Alanzo! So we present Cathy Tweeds statement and her memorial video. Correction; it should have read , This ISNT about ending the abuses as Mike and Leah are trying to get us to believe.. He has even been used as an expert witness in several court cases of psychiatry abuses : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Breggin, Gee, I think that David Miscavige ought to hire me as his spoke person, instead of that lawer of his, who I feel that a little training in correct public relations, would be a good thing for her to consider, . Do you really know that to say this and to second-guess a mother who lost her daughter suicide? But of course, the current anti-Scientology narrative used by haters and by uninformed individuals to help their OWN personal agendas, disseminate a false perception brought about by the Media show. Its the fact that they threw her out that gets me. I agree with most of your points that you have discussed with Alanzo, except for the above one. Yes Ms Tweed-we need kindness, love and respectwell said. This is always a liability for anyone seeking the truth. You see, I feel that we must be very careful with mixing the religious aspect of Scientology with its psychotherapeutic aspect. Apparently it was a policy set by Hubbard that one needed to find out about any health issues and then get it or them taken care of before starting this course. Christopher Dewayne Redd. Mental health should be under the heading of psychotherapy not under the heading of religion. Belief in aliens, and auditing, going clear and of course the extraterrestrial nonsense is ludicrous. I WAS THERE. How could a mother, just three days after her daughter's death, state that she's "at peace" with it?? But theres a reason. I think the show wouldve been better served if it had done another story on a Sea Org related suicide because there are certainly more of them. I am not anti ANYTHING, but I have my own mind about things without having to follow any sheeple or any narratives, . The level of delusion and victimhood on behalf of the mother is sickening. Charles Cain. VETERAN Obituary H.L. She provided financial support while her child chose to try to have a career. This is TV were talking about. So, from my own observations, there is AT LEAST a very clear professional relationship among all of them as to a VERY specific and defined anti-Scientology narrative. Why? This is all about protecting David Miscavige and the Church. Family and friends must say goodbye to their beloved Mary Marguerite Taylor (Tweed, Ontario), who passed away at the age of 95, on February 15, 2023. Read Today's Notices. She was regularly having suicidal thoughts and always been sent to auditing or naturopaths instead of to a competent mental health provider. They will KICK YOU OUT!! In the other teaching (Rons too, I would say), Know is where intuition and wisdom lie. Will they reform? And the PTS Type III declare for onlines public.. I consider my point PROVED! Even to go so far to say (paraphrase), If the body is sick, force it to dig a ditch. Tyler Tweed Obituary Tyler Tweed obituary and the death were widely searched online by the people hearing the death information. They just want them off their lines, so they can concentrate on the able. Dedicated to a wonderful person who left too soon. Curtis Tweed, Sr., 55, of Morganton, NC, passed away Saturday, November 26, 2022. The unlikeliness of reform does not come from a group but only from one single individual. But if we are going to blame and criticize Scientologists for this, then I am afraid, that we would have to do the same with MILLIONS of Americans, to not mention the other millions from other countries. She went from a Where is Leah these days to a Leah Remini is an awesome badass. So, to answer your question, Gtsix, about .how does the Church feel about psychiatry and receiving psychiatric treatment?, my answers to that is : The SAME way that THOUSANDS of individuals who have ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with Scientology think : uncomfortable and against it, and with VALID REASONS. And that includes posting it again, a year later, for a licensed therapist to psycho-analyze you using that quote of yours that you told to Tony on the day of your daughters funeral. Ms Remini and her team arent spreading hate. No part of Breaking up families is illegal. 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