Instead, he blocked our access to his and Generation Churchs social media accounts. Youre better off reading the Bible at home with your cat. And I, I look back at those meetings that I was just describing, Julie, I dont I dont say this lightly. (God) says, the prudent see danger and take refuge. @Cynthia Wright Love your comment. But it was dark. I dont believe God makes mistakes when creating us a certain sex. Thats even though MacDonalds former megachurch, Harvest Bible Chapel, disqualified MacDonald from public ministry in 2019 for a pattern of sinful behavior.. And its to warn people, right? One, its impossible, and were gonna get killed, were gonna get slaughtered on that. And thats got to be a heavy. Why is it important to you to let people know what really happened? She declined. And there was just this push against a public rebuke. I dont see that as absolving James McDonald. The G in freemasonry stands for generation. Why would anyone who follows Jesus Christ care what Generation Church thinks about anything? But I think my kat has watched too much Kenneth Copeland. The only joy in doing this is we would be obeying Gods word. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Thankfully, I had headphones on. . Plus, the school offers more than 60 majors, great leadership opportunities and strong financial aid. I certainly am no Bible scholar. We did not hurry. I payed for you and James. And when I look back at it, thats what I think. James MacDonald and Harvest: Years of Discord . And then out of the blue, I get slapped with a lawsuit from James McDonald before I published anything. And we would be loved, it would actually be a loving thing for us to do. That would be acceptable teaching. Because it was still a time when many elders were not admitting any of the wrongs that they had done. He surrounded himself with yes men and used intimidation tactics to keep people in line. And then if you could, please share the podcast on social media so more people can hear about this great content. And at this point, the letters, what had happened with the letters? Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. It was a four hour meeting. I hope you have a great day and God bless. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. Tell Harvest Church board hows the fruit now? But James McDonald, he did not like to fly with the commoners, from what I understand. He was the second longest tenured pastor at Harvest. And and its sad to me other than when they did finally, the former elders apologize for the lawsuit that was brought against me. Ive listened to the entire recording. So were in the meeting. I totally get the emotion that you must have felt because I felt it, too. Julie Roys knows she published many false statements about me, false statements now proven such in a court of law, yet she has retracted nothing. And my job was to get it to fellow elder board. I said, Sandy, Im so sorry, for what happened on my watch. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. But But I remember saying to the guys, listen, heres the passages Ive been studying. In June, he posted a picture with 2022 GOP gubernatorial nominee Kari Lake. Gosh she is just filthy with gossip as fact and at very best half the story. Ed Stetzer was given a car by James MacDonald, along with a bunch of cash and other things that Roys documents in her reporting. Dan and his wife, Kim, subsequently left Harvest, but remain committed to the integrity of the Church and caring for those who have been hurt in the Church. Again, James is is now saying, oh, all of that had approval. It wasnt an argument. Welcome to The Roys Report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church. I mean, even though at this point, your eyes have been opened. . Had it not been for that recording, I mean, what do you think? And with that opening, I felt like it was confirmed. George of course evangelicalism is [anti-Christ] fundamentalism. However, an email that I got, that Duitsman had sent out and then it was leaked to me, said that what Duitsman was upset about was the fact that the elders were admitting that they had failed. But, at whatever time it was, you know, midnight in India or something sitting in the lobby, I sent an email, put my name on it, heres my statement. On that Haiti trip. James MacDonald (@jamesmacdonald) June 14, 2021. Her articles have appeared in numerous periodicals. No One Knows. And Dean Butters letter came in that way as well. Julie Roys October 8, 2020. Like Tullian Tchvidjian, he would be a great salesman. And when he sees he cant save it, it sounds like then he was trying to lobby for being able to resign, and a lot of emotional manipulation being used that weekend from from what youve told me. What Happens Now? To donate, Lead Pastor and Exec Team of ARC Megachurch Resign Amid Allegations of Bullying and Financial Misconduct, EXCLUSIVE: Dozens Say ARC Megachurch Pastor Bullied and Shamed Staff, Volunteers, James MacDonald Preaching at ARC Megachurch in Arizona, Why Businessman Peter Chung Matters for the Future of The Kings College. But somewhere around 2008-10 his preaching changed a bit. If the church wants to regulate marriage, let them say you cant get remarried in their church if you are already married in the eyes of the church. Theres no joy in doing this. Wow! But according to a recent email by MacDonald, hes a victim of defamation by an envious childand needs your money to rebuild.. How about that one? And it was it was a battle in the natural, exposing James McDonald, the letters, the articles, everything. I knew what the topic was. And I sat and prayed. Again, six, absolutely scathing letters. I had asked one of the one of the people on the reconciliation team earlier that day, I said, Im going to go into a meeting with James McDonald and I need I need to have the letters I need to know. And Im just trying to smear him. It seems we are being punished for the acts of someone who was our spiritual leader. Should have that should have been enough of enough of a clue for me to say, Wait, wait, wait, thats a check. I thought the weight was dealing with everything else in there was a weight, but that was the weight. Because your article seemed to conflate all these things. I shouldnt be doing this. So its critically important that the truth be told. A strong woman with a stronger husband will become an unstoppable, gracious, and capable woman. So thats why I think its so important to get the truth out there and to just keep speaking the truth. But one of the circumstances hes talking about, hes talking about something specific where Id stood up for him in a meeting years ago. What I especially find troubling is this: How come nobody has talked about the false doctrines that MacDonald has been preaching??? For narcissists, attracting attention is the point. So, Dan, thank you for that. We got to pray. Rather, its helping those in bondage find freedom. #JRgossipslut #JRcancerinChristsbody. I just thought, yeah. And I know its cost you personally. If hes ok with lying it places doubt on the gospel. There were times in the meeting where, you know, I didnt even know what gaslighting was. The marriage relationship has died. It was a large elder board. And remember, a week before the decision had been made, in terms of not qualified as an elder and his employment would be over. Well, and thanks so much for listening to The Roys Report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church. And I, the next day, I wrote and said, Well, okay, I respect your wishes. And theres Ephesians 5 about exposing the unfruitful works of darkness having nothing to do with those. Again, she was the the wife of Dave Corning who was an elder at Harvest for over 20 years, and telling her stories, and one of her stories was you know about pictures of her being put up on a on a wall as a target practice for James McDonald and her seeing this shot up with a pellet gun. She first came to my attention with James MacDonald, then with Ravi Zacharias, and now John McArthur plus one of his side-kicks is in her cross-hairs. This isnt phrased to have constructive conversation. Also, make sure you subscribe to The Roys Report on Apple podcasts or Google podcasts. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? And he conspired with these staff to bring these letters because they all just were out to get James. But according to a recent email by MacDonald, he's a victim of defamation by an "envious child"and needs your money "to rebuild." "Tragically . Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a "pattern of sinful behavior," James MacDonald is preaching at Generation Churchan Association of Related Churches (ARC) megachurch in Mesa, Arizona. But again, reading those letters, and it does have a different impact when you read the actual letter than someone summarizes it. And that was the day that Mancow Muller aired these excerpts. Just finished my post on clarifiers that will precede the deception lists. And he said, you know, James Macdonald had requested that I come out to a meeting and he had requested Mike Dunwoody and one other elder Mark Hopwood was a longtime elder from Elgin that we would all join them for a meeting at seven oclock on that Thursday night. And thank you for loving our Lord and showing the way. I know James McDonald says it was a conference call. Send your questions about the Bible, ministry, or personal matters below. Nah Gary, thats just typical cat behavior for you, with or without Kenneth Copeland. At the end of that weekend, before James MacDonald got fired in February 2019. (Julie Roys) Eight years ago, prominent author and pastor, John MacArthur, strongly warned the Moody Bible Institute about its association with now-disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald. Hes not qualified. ( was spent) That seems pretty straightforward. And they are even beloved by God. Right, so now you have this meeting that ends you know, Tuesday night meeting that ends in the wee hours of the Wednesday, February 6. We dont know how much the top people at Harvest make. But I had all I had all the letters by that point. We turned out to have six witnesses who wrote 28 pages with innumerable charges. The Lord made it really clear. At least some did. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. And you then forwarded them to the elder board. So these letters, and this is what I found really riveting about your story, is when these letters were first given, as you said, they were given to pastors, with the exception of Sandys letter that went directly to you. So walk us through the drama of that weekend, James McDonald trying to save his job. One is, I dont want people to give up on the church. And we shouldnt be, you know, happy with standing in line and say, well, so and so said that, right? . Honestly dont to this day. But for us not to act would be unbelief. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. The picture with deceiver Kari Lake speaks volumes! But, I dont believe I have ever heard anyone say in any of these posts, husbands love your wives as Christ loved the church and gave himself for her. And youre going to hear all about what happened in those meetings and the strong arm tactics that McDonald used to try and get his way. And this wasnt a one time thing. Julie Roys lives for her anti gospel, anti authority, man hating bias - even partnering with shock jocks like Mancow Muller or worse. And there were a number in the room who were looking at I Timothy 5, thats for those who persistence sin rebuke them in the presence of all so that the rest may stand in fear. Because Im not a quiet guy in meetings. My husband really appreciates James McDonalds preaching against my better judgement I told him about the new messagesso we have the Advent message from his Home Church network cast to the TV I had planned to leave the room so I didnt have to watch it I have to tell you he sounds sincere (without wax) I find the whole situation so heart breaking and confusing. Rick, Donald actually had talked to me after the meeting and said, how much that meant to James. Wives submit to your husbands. He teaches that wives should endure abuse like a missionary endures persecution. But so much else not owned. So that tells you something about the backbone and the integrity of Dan Marquardt. Whats wrong with Visconti supporting Kari Lake or speaking out against abortion or transgenderism? But by the time we were done that night, the decision that night was two things. A Christian leader, according to 1 Timothy 3:3, should not be "greedy for filthy lucre.". He should sell cars or computers. And there was a group and we had two prayer meetings of people who had been former elders, staff people who have gone on the record with me. He could have apologized a long time ago, but nothing publicly. So lets move on to these letters. @jamesmacdonald. We knew I needed to do it. You could tell where it was headed probably. Great! We dont know what it would look like tomorrow. Thank you Jesus, Amen. Thats what the weight was. And I said, Listen, I get it. That was you, wasnt it? I mean, again, it was a meeting into the wee hours of the night, early morning. And this is when everything really started happening. After you guys. Malachi 2:16 has been harmfully interpreted & practiced based on twisted translations, Malachi 2 clearly talks about husbands dealing treacherously w their wives these husbands are the ones who hate and divorce 16 The man who hates and divorces his wife, says the Lord, the God of Israel, does violence to the one he should protect, says the Lord Almighty. And to hear that, its still got to be pretty tough to stand up to that, or at that point where you like, now I know the truth, Im moving forward. . Am I characterizing that correctly? There was just enough false doctrine so that it was swallowed up with the truth. Yeah. Like, I cant believe this. I dont understand how folks in a church can continue to contribute to the church knowing that a significant portion of their contributions have gone / are going to line someones pocket in this dispute. I didnt, I didnt argue with him. If not, youre probably looking at what Paul latter in the chapter describes as an immature child. Well, and I remember, I remember this whole thing, because Im getting bits and pieces from different sources about whats going on and whats happening. Ryan Visconti, the Arizona pastor platforming discredited celebrity preacher James MacDonald is attracting attentionnot just for his new partnership, but also his provocative social media posts about women and marriage. When I entered my UCC church-sponsored college, I figured out why. It was in the very, very early days of its launch. So he did that. Im sad for his fall. I encourage you to talk to Christian doctors who are fearful of extreme under no circumstances legislation that now forces molested preteens to give birth, and makes it difficult to treat a septic And it was a pretty tough meeting. Thats thats a much harder relaunch. Now, now James is saying, oh, Mancow edited this to say something that it really didnt say. And, again, this is five days after I published my expose of Harvest and World Magazine. So grateful to be healthy and happy in the Lord to where I can finally wade into the filth from JuLIE Roys. Yet another American megachurch is immersed in accusations of wrongdoings. God does not value the sanctity of marriage more than the safety and sanity of individuals in that marriage.. But I think it was And anyway, hes fired. Well, because Scripture says you do it in front of everybody. uterus or clean out a womb after a stillbirth (because these treatments are labeled abortions, and even that word brings out comments like yours). When Christian leaders continue to teach that abuse does not constitute biblical grounds for divorce they are wrong, Vernick wrote. It was really it was a painful meeting, it was a was an eye opening meeting as well though. Like so many other cradle to present churched people, all I ever knew was the KJV Bible. Dominican Republic, a resort there and invited their wives to come with them. Think Ill go preach at my cat nowhe has huge ears & better discernment than those willfully cowering in the open cage of the corporate state-church. This was a many time thing. year. It was a conference call because it happened fast. Receive E-Devotionals and Ministry Updates. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Also, in addition to those, you have the letter that was written by eight former elders at Harvest, who brought them in 2012, to the elder board, and within 24 hours, were excommunicated for bringing charges against James McDonald. We brought up several things from the letters with James McDonald that night, and he was just dismissing everything we brought up. A strong woman with a weak husband will become a toxic woman. Theres 30 men in the room. 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