For the price, Meermins are actually really good shoes.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[336,280],'footslide_com-leader-2','ezslot_16',118,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-footslide_com-leader-2-0'); In the long run, Carmina shoes are better shoes than Meermins. A very nice pair of black cap toes on the Eton last but far to hard to break in. I dont really David the piece is deliberately written by someone else, not me, as its not an area I have that much experience with. MP/Barrie 9.5E: Excellent fit right out of the box with thick or thin socks. I shall have to give bespoke shoes a try some day. Morjas definitely makes decent shoes, even though I wouldnt recommend buying any pair with leather soles, as these are the worst soles Ive ever encountered. Allen Edmonds is a shoe company and will always be known as such. Merrell Vapor Glove: 10D, no issues since there's barely any structure. I have found myself not liking the current 2021+ year make of the 2030 in 8.5 The changes have kind of fudged the instep for me right at the tongue seam. Alden Barrie: I can be comfortable in Bluchers in 8.5E. Carmina shoes are stylish, fashionable, chic, and very good-looking. Seemed comfortable at first but the more I wore it, the more I realized it just doesn't work for me. I usually just buy shoes in the 500 range when they go on sale for 200-300, but in the 300 range I really like the Austrian manufacturer Handmacher; they make shoes on traditionally boxy Viennese lasts, and they use tiny wooden nails to connect the soles to the uppers. Asics GT2000: 11 - Perfect fit. Im thinking of trying something different and the George Cleverley Ready to Wear line has a whole cut I particularly like the look of. The instep is high, but massive on the service boot pattern. Please take a look. My favourite pair of C&J have been back to the factory four times for refurbishment. I would like to recommend Trading Post in Japan. Ie if you spend 500 on a pair of shoes youd probably be looking at circa 2,000 for your suit and 150 for your shirt. Morjas uses corrected-grain leather, despite their claims to the contrary. Red Wing 8 9D: decent fit. France doesnt have the shoemaking tradition of the UK, Spain or Italy, and its brands like Loding or Orbans are all made in Spain and Portugal. The alternative was to shut out the market of men with wider feet. Pepe Albaladejo runs Meermin with his father Jose, who founded the company in 2001 by selling through the legendary shoe mecca that is Tokyo's Isetan department store. I have owned shoes from most of the English brands, and 5-10 Spanish brands and 5-10 Italian brands, and its a quite clear difference (but again, there are exceptions in both directions. Low instep fits me perfectly. My personal experience I can unreservedly recommend Allen Edmonds (the Strand in particular). Im really looking forward to the promised article on TLB Artista. Customers cant stop talking about Carminas. Doc Martens or Loake 1880 for Chelsea boots ? So on the making you get all closed channels, you get all leatherboard or even leather heel stiffeners, you get a rounded side on the heel on both inside and outside, a slightly bevelled waist etc. Interesting ! document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Above all of these. But the key issue from my point of view is that AE offers 10 widths across all the models in their portfolio, where none of the Northamptoners are able to offer more than 2 and only for very few of their models. I just don't love Rancourt's boot patterns and overall build. The Septieme Larguer felt very similar to the Andres Sendra from what I remember. Carmina Shoes - Definitive Thread (reviews, advice, sizing, etc) - official thread. Check the Noble Shoe eshop for several decent ones. TLB Artista full review here With Meermins, you get a refined-classy style that is set to rule the modern scene. This goes for Allen Edmonds now as well, where they will routinely reach 700 if bought directly from the manufacturer shipped out to Canada. Even with a tongue pad, facings fully come together throughout the instep. Thus, not likely to be much different from your C&J in terms of make, but the last and the leather may differ. Put simply, if you pay 250 for a shoe you cannot get 500 quality. "Another area where a lot of the English makers fall down, at this price level and below, is the soles, which aren't as good as Spanish brands in general. Every now and then I got excited by a nice design at a lower price point only to be disappointed by quality issues. Any other leather I handled was absolutely fine! Customers love the shape of the Almond Toe-Boxes of Meermin shoes Many believe that that design adds well to the elegance of the shoes. Rock Your Socks- show your sock, shoe & pant combos, *DROP 3/1* NWT $240 Ralph Lauren Purple Label Italian Made Navy Linen & Mulberry Silk Twill Neck Tie, * DROP 3/1 * NWT $225 Ralph Lauren Purple Label Italian Made Square Knit Solid Black Silk Neck Tie, R.M.Williams Comfort Craftsman Tobacco Suede UK 8.5 H. OGIO Golf Travel Bags The Royal Experience! In the end I find both brands run small and you rather need half a size or for Bobbies an entire size larger than what you would have with Santoni for example. I dont think theyre very different, but no I cant compare directly, as I dont own GC RTW. Should fit most people TTS. Like I said, it wont work for everyone, but might be an option if on a budget. Great Stone Alexander 8.5D: Mostly great fit but too much heel slippage. I mean, things can go wrong, I see no problems with that, but then it has to be handled properly and fixed (Ive had a finished pair redone from two different makers, in one case it was since an error was made on one of the things modified on the lasts from the fitting shoe, on the other a small damage happened when the lasts was pulled. Note: this is for the old China models. I might have very sensible feet but I wouldnt buy more mainline C&J. i would think they sit somewhere between C&J and Loake/Barkers. And do you know any retailer in continental Europe who sells Anthony Cleverley? I think Carmina sizing, at first, looks simple but if you read into it, there are lots of strange variations. These are two of the best known shoe brands internationally, with Crocketts a British mainstay and Carmina (above) coming to prominence in the past 10 years. if I like a pair of suede Edward Greens chelseas and Meermin (or Allen Edmond or Loake) chelseas the same out of the box, would I enjoy the EG uppers longer because theyre of a higher grade suede? Premium Leather Uppers stitched down well with Goodyear Welting strategies make the Carmina shoes to be one of the most well-finished shoes that we have had the privilege of wearing. Alongside the quality of the leather, something thats lost at this lower price level is consistency. Thursday Vanguard 9.5D: Toe box is a bit tapered for my liking, but overall fit is so-so. ??? Either as a good value buy for one who is unwilling or unable spend more, or, as a gateway purchase into the world of fine mens shoes. I think that chukka looks nice. p.s. And its one of the few industries where youre likely to be buying direct from the manufacturer. To take an example, say youre in the market for an adelaide. All Enzos were tried as oxfords and have comfortable insteps with no gap, * **Fugashin Saigon unknown wholecut last** 8UK comfortable, good instep for oxford, * **Gaziano Girling DG70** 8.5EUK comfortable. Plain black Oxfords from Churchs who are near the rail station. I also had disappointing experiences with Myrqvists quality. Customers complain that the Meermin shoes are often poorly finished. Own 2 pairs and ordering a 3rd in this last. He replied straight-faced: No, we only use the best full-grain calf for our shoes. Viberg 2020 8.5 GYW: Kinda snug, had to stretch out the instep, slightly smaller than the stitchdown version. It's a reasonably generous last. Luckily it did a tiny bit making it bearable, but damn they are still uncomforable I have to admit. Chunky, comfortable, and with nice make but the suede itself is nothing special, certainly worse than Crownhill in the same price range. document.getElementById("ak_js_1").setAttribute("value",(new Date()).getTime()); Footslide.com is a full-time participant of the Amazon Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com, 2023 Footslide.com | All Rights Reserved. *UPDATE: Carmina say they do not use plastic heel stiffeners. Meermin US UK Narrow. The Shelby boot has a lower instep as a result of the pattern as well. Spain level 2: Berwick, Sendra and Meermin. Carminas are really chic, classy, and fashionable. Somehow lower instep than E? Its hard to say since theyre Chelsea boots, which means breaking in isnt as much of an issue as with lace-up shoes. Off sale they come in at about 380 per pair (sale price 225) and they have a great re-furb service where for 80, theyll send them back to you as good as new. After trying on shoes in Trading Post, the fit is so much better than any western brands Ive ever tried. At Styleforum, youll find rousing discussions that go beyond strings of emojis. (Portuguese shoemaker) I suspect 8UK would have been better, * **Enzo Bonafe 74945** 8UK perfect fit, snug around the heel and ball with a comfortable instep but still toe room, * **Enzo Bonafe 804** 7.5UK fits a bit better than 8UK, 8UK has a lot of heel slip in shell boots, * **Enzo Bonafe 062** 8UK fits similarly to 804 7.5UK. Simon, I doubt even your wealthier readers walk around every day in 500 plus shoes. Finally somebody else who has experienced Meermin shoes as very hard to break in. Less so in the winter. However, I continue to buy loafers from Allen Edmonds because they sell shoes that come in 4-5 widths, so its easy for someone with narrow feet to find loafers that fit and wont fall off. How to measure your feet. The vamp was tight but not painful, toes were fine. Depends on the shoe store whether they stock them though. Maybe even a philosophical one. You must log in or register to reply here. I loved the MTO experience there. The US has several brands that fit into this discussion - some old, some new. G&G also have exceptional service in the store. I have, however, experienced considerably worse service at some of the establishments of allegedly higher grade companies, whose products I could easily afford, but whose customer service proved to be a very effective deterrent. Barrie 9.5D: Bad fit. Here the belittling is by Jesper, but somehow feels like follow-through of the same swing. Although Carmina shoes are more expensive than Meermin shoes, there is so much value that you can get when you make that extra investment to get them. We start at the top end of that market, and then gradually work our way down. If it is plastic, it means it cant adapt to your heel shape over time, improving the fit. Why not economical or cost effective or something else which has more neutral/positive connotation unlike cheap. Closed lacing a few mm shy of coming together on day one. RM Williams Comfort Craftsman: 9.5G AUS - Great fit. 1757 last 10D: Great roomy fit as I recall from trying in a store over a year ago. Great read Simon. Free shipping for many products! It's been a while, but I didn't have any complaints after break in. Overall, would you have a favourite among these brands? The quality of the leather and overall construction is superb. Carmina shoes are made with premium materials that are much superior to materials used for making Meermin shoes. Ive a pair of Barker Grant that I must have worn 50/60/70 times and its only last week I had a topy (SVIG rubber) put on, the cobbler reckoned the rubber on the heel hadnt worn enough to warrant replacement. High Top vs Low Top Boxing Shoes: Which Is Best for You? Sendra is a factory that makes for a lot of cheaper start-ups, because theyre so flexible and have no minimums. You can use these comfortable shoes to show up appropriately for most events, in the most positive ways possible. I could fully close the lacing with the shoes still being a little loose with 9E. Im not sure what you have to back up that this wouldnt be the case? At C&Js benchgrade level, you can choose from black or chestnut calf (both with a leather sole), or brown suede with a rubber sole and youre limited to their 348 last. Dont buy both together though do buy one then the other, just to make sure you do like that style and fit etc. I know last shape and design are the most obvious differences. Viberg 2030D 9: The 9D is probably the best fit I have from Viberg, or tied with the 2040. G&G is easy. These classy are built for the ultimate style, comfort, functionality, and elegance of the elite. Quality control seems to be non-existent. But their attempt to branch out has caused them to lose their focus. I'm interested in branching out from C&J to Carmina so I'll be paying attention to this thread. You talk a lot about nicer shoes on PS and how they are much nicer. I wear chup socks with all of my shoes and boots these days, but for some of these I wore Darn Tough crew light or Darn Tough cushioned boot socks. Great article I wonder what you think of the dilemma I currently find myself in?.. There's a tiny bit more room at the ball too now. The sort of thing that Septieme Largeur really excel in . I think shoegazing is largely irrelevant since the information it provides can be gathered more reliably elsewhere. In addition to the Artista line you allude to, they also have a great customization program. It's other Asian brands that are likely to become known in the West first, though. When you see and feel the quality that you are getting with these shoes, Im sure that you will feel pleased with your expenses. HIRO 9: Terrible fit. More disclosure is called for before putting a disclaimer on others situation. I have four pairs from them that cover all my needs and they are definitely as good as John Lobb who charge you over twice the price. Best fitting shoe I own, after a couple wears I can sport these for 20 miles with no hotspots. With that said, the number of good bespoke shoemakers that will make sure to both deliver good fitting and very well-made shoes is still very high in the world. Dress socks. Snug in thick socks. The leather feels like a glove and is truly unlined (to the extent that the uppers almost collapse under their own weight), unlike Carminas unlined shoes which dont feel all that different from normal lined shoes. . The main concern for me is finding a last shape that fits my high instep and once I find that last I stick with it. For someone who was a first time buyer of Northampton shoes, that process was indispensable. Unlined Carmina loafers. It is good with athletic socks. They used to offer calf leather and Goodyear welting at incredible prices though the soles would wear quickly and their shops recommended Topy. * **Viberg 2030** 8 snug but not too tight, * **Viberg 2030** 8.5 a bit loose in the heel in CXL, comfortable when laced tightly all the way up, * **Winson OLD Edlyn** EU41 sized on advice of Emil via foot measurements, a touch short. Compared to the HOK 9 and 2030 9.5 this started with the loosest heel, which lead to a bit of slop, but broke in with some wear. At least in the States, TLB comes in less expensive than C&J even after the customization upcharge and even if you select the higher-quality Artista line. I like my shoes with a long point extra shiny..low like Aldos Baker's recommended 8.5D, but I think I would have been happier with 9D. And nice finishing and detailing as you mentioned. Bored of counting likes on social networks? Carminas are more expensive than Meermins. AE has excellent customer service to this day. Obviously also a difference style of shoe, but those companies spend so much on marketing and sales compared to these makers, that they are inevitably worse value purely from a quality point of view. The lower tier shoes arent and if C&J or EG are out of reach, go with Alden rather than any of the cheaper Northampton brands. Were the shoes more structured I would go with 9.5D. The Shell Cordovan, non-Alden Shoe and Boot Thread, Find reviews, recommendations, tips about and appreciation of fine cutlery here. **Renav has inconsistent sizing it turns out. At first glance, you should be able to tell, to an extent, if a pair of shoes would be a good fit for you or not. Another area where a lot of the English makers fall down, at this price level and below, is the soles, which arent as good as Spanish brands in general. Thats a point worth emphasising. Im not sure who and why the person you talked with from Barker said anything else, but a quick visit to their website or just a Google will you show you that he or her were wrong. The only major disadvantage compared to Goodyear is that the stitches come through on the inside of the shoe. 11D would've been better out of the box but CXL is very forgiving. However without the insert there's too much volume so now I'm shopping for a 3/4 insert to toss in them. So for example, they now only curve the waist line on the inside of their shoe, and not the outside. Similar wide heel to the 1035. Whites Barrie 8.5D: Felt too tight on the instep brand new. What type of heel stiffener do they use? Ive found one Cheaney last with a wide toe box that works for me by sizing down so that the heel fits but very little success with other makers. Ive spent up to $2000 on a suit or sports jacket or coat on various occasions but have never spent more than $350 on a pair of shoes. 511 last 10D: Bad fit. to my eye, both look too large for you based on these pics. The double monks a little harder but getting there. For what its worth, Ive purchased more boots in the past 3 years than any other style of footwear (dress/service types of models). second chance thread), Carmina Green Shell Cordovan Frankenstitch Captoe Jumper Boot 10.5eee(uk) detroit last, RM Williams Comfort Craftsman or Carmina (Rain Last) Chelsea, *SOLD* Carmina Bourbon Shell Cordovan NST boot 8UK Forest last, Alden Color 4 Shell Cordovan Chukkas - Barrie last size 10 D, Alden x Leffot Saddle Shoe - Unglazed Cigar Shell Cordovan and Snuff Suede - 8D Barrie Last. Its why Ive avoided buying from them. Assuming that none have cracks or discolorations, are there significant differences in how different grades of suede used for shoes wear over time? I think I could also safely do this last in in 9.5, but I'm not trying to wear my boots as tight as possible. This is the next level down of Spanish brands, more on a par with the Swedish start-ups in terms of quality, but much bigger organisations. Do you guys size down or buy your standard Carmina size? Because the level is higher, and also because I wasnt that impressed with Myrqvist either, personally. Please dont take offence, I am just dead curious about it. A pair of EG Chelseas bought today are just as good as a pair bought ten years ago as will be a pair bought in ten years time. Custom ordered these with a combination last of 9.5E toe and 9.5D heel. I cant really comment Im afraid Sebastian, having never owned any. Additional notes about feet:I was measured as 10.5D by an Allen Edmonds store associate several years ago. Meermin: I own a pair of unlined Chelsea boots in the softcalf leather and I have handled and tried on a paid of loafers in the same leather. One brand not mentioned were the French company Bexley. Absolutely do not take it 1.5 down from Brannock like Viberg recommends. Its a standard Goodyear shoe, with no fuss. Never felt loose. I can fully close the balmoral lacing most of the way up for an ideal look. Interesting to hear you sized up for Simpson when based on your description above you Could probably have stayed on an 8. Seems to be a popular thing to write now. I was about to replace my decades old AE McAllisters with a new one, but upon inspection, the newer shoe (same model) had wonky stitching and sloppy finishing. Berwick has become very popular in recent years, particularly in Asia, Russia and elsewhere. I just purchased them and they are in transit from Sweden. Finally, this last is fairly conservative, with less sleek lines than the C&J, Carmina, Weston, etc. spoo -- great thread idea (I'll soon add my info ). Alden TruBalance 9D: Its just so good. Carmina Simpson Chelsea boot - 9.5 UK. **. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The 5th toe of my right foot has always been mildly adducted and overlapping the 4th toe. D. C. D. Medium. And you could choose a more rounded last, if that was your preference. One thing I could never understand is why, from lower to higher price points, RTW makers dont provide more width options. I bought a pair of suede oxfords some months ago and I have found them to be fairly good for their cost. 10 Best Ortholite Replacement Insoles (Reviewed in 2022), 11 Best Water Shoes for Water Parks | Footslide, Highly-Durable Shoe Construction and Design, Meermins dont last as long as Carmina shoes, You can get most Carminas for cost prices between 341 and 407, You can buy Meermin shoes for prices between $160 and $210. They are amazing shoes. #EasyLifeESMenBoots #DopeBoots #Meermin #CarminaBoots #ShellCordovanBoots #EasyLifeES #CasualMenBoots #MereminPlumMuseumCalf #Meerminbelts---ALL UB playlist-. 3. I have not personally verified it since, but I believe that I am at the mid-to-upper end of 10.5 based on other fits. And in pictures I can see a difference in appearance, at least in terms of shape and design, but I am not sure if there is much of a difference elsewhere (I get that bespoke and such will fit nicer). Slightly tight on mid-foot for the first day. Where C&J excels is in the breath of their offering, but the overall quality wouldnt differ significantly between the two. 55 last 9.5E: Excellent fit with thick or thin socks, this is what boot heaven feels like! Their MSRP is slightly below C&J and at a certain point theyve been advertised as The finest bespoke shoes outside of England., On par with Shoepassion in Germany Id recommend Prime Shoes. Some RTW still offer width varieties but I believe the manufacturers found that those with narrow feet didnt suffer if the shoes were too wide. Perhaps I need to re-examine what value I place on shoes. Thing is that, not referring to Berluti necessarily now, but we do see a number of very famous bespoke shoemakers, not least in England, who the past years have started to put out shoes that arent properly made and/or have a proper fit. The subreddit about quality footwear. It will be creeping in going forward too, whenever it makes sense. CJ or Alden or even something slightly lower end like Lof & Tung that is made more tastefully) and higher end makers (e.g. Overall, Carmina shoes are better than Meermin shoes. Viberg 310E 8.5: Roomy in all directions but toe ball lines up with lowest part of the sprung toe forefoot and widest part of foot lines up with widest part of boot. No one see this though, its only for yourself. I'm looking at a cobbler union in a 312 last they recommended 1.5 down from brannock. Dedicated to informing, teaching, and sharing. In fact at some point I wondered whether you were being protectionist of Northampton makers by apparently shunning AE, but then I could not see anywhere else that could be like you. If you wanted something sleeker, and dont mind it being slightly more delicate then JM Weston. C&J have been my staple for more than 20 years, and I find that their 348 and 341 last feel like old friend straight our of the box. Pretty good fit, but I need a kilty for some of the volume while new, will probably break in more and be able to be cinched down better over time. This is very useful, thank you. Measured as 9.5 D. Will get more detailed measurements after the pandemic, along with a military last fitting. Some can only be purchased at high upcharge compared to what they cost in Europe, while some can be bought from European retailers with free shipping, VAT deducted and no customs charge (as long as below $800) so they come out 15-20% cheaper than they cost in Europe. 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